Amanita, now the species, I think pantherina? RSA Piet Retief on pine 20211026
Amanita persicina – peach-colored fly agaric?
Growing on pine
Larry RobinsonIt's given me my life back! Complex PTSD, anxiety, depression, memory anti-inflammatory and more. I'm so thankful for 
! I take a simple tincture that I have made. I started with an alcohol tincture last year and now I have olive oil for topical and alcohol in one batch and glycerin in another for internal use. I have used the olive oil tincture for internal use too. I also really enjoy a tea ounce in a while and plan on getting a special freezer tray to freeze for later use. Howie DoinLarry Robinson do u take it as a tincture or make tea Larry RobinsonBoth. My protocol is three days on and one day off, or five days on and two days off for the tincture. Tea when I take the time.I did the alcohol tincture for around 7 weeks daily and my blood work said my liver and kidney function were normal Kasey AckerHowie Doin thx….I have a family member who is experiencing all that you described including PTSD. I found these wonderful mushrooms in the summer. Started with .03grams as a tea for a week or so… this was before I learned about the Micro-dose protocol. But it seem to be helping so I continue. Went up to .05 for another week. At this point I haven’t learned about the Ph and was only boiling for 30 min. The mushrooms were powdered so the experience was consistent. How after 3 months and getting the Micro-dose protocol correct. He is taking it as the mushroom speaks to him. The big anxiety attacks have lessened both and frequency and severity. I haven’t seen much depression relief. And the PTSD… feels kind of like a big scab that slowly getting smaller. Prior to giving him the Amanita expensive so bad he couldn’t really communicate much. Would you say your experience is sort of similar? Leslie SinayAric NaberI dry them and then combine with vodka, fill glass canning jar and cover with vodka, put in dark cabinet, shake everyday for 30-40 days.This I only use topically or a few drops under the tongue.Otherwise i make tea.I micro dose during day a week before doing a larger dose.I use topical when I’m in pain.I have fibromyalgia so anything that helps for pain is great.I’ve had 2 out into the universe teaching experiences as well.The larger dose of Amanita tea I took at nite in my bedroom. Mercer RosenfeldI look forward to sleep again, sleep very hard, dream, anxiety relief, gives me something to keep me busy and look forward to:) Leslie SinayChanged my life.I’m happier now.Sam HughesIt relieves nerve pain for me, enhances sleep, and appears to improve my mood....to add to this, I dehydrated 6 or 7 caps then soaked them in 40%abv vodka in a dark place for 12 months (yes, I could have done it for a shorter time but I forgot all about it) - I mostly use this topically on my lower back (I have two herniated discs) but I do take a few drops orally every now and then. I have a little bottle with a pipette (I'd guess the pipette holds maybe 2 or 3ml) and some nights I have a pipette's worth... other nights I have none. I tend to wait until I feel like the mushrooms are calling me, rather than me choosing to take some of the tincture.. AMANITA PANTHERINA... A lot of you have been getting them from me as they are in season here and there have been a lot of questions because there really is just a serious lack of information out there about the Amanita pantherina. Other than nearly every source and guide proclaiming them as deadly poison. There are two reasons why this is so. One is because it is the origin of the Blessed Sacrament and Hindu Soma , among other names . When the spiritual leaders in the past caught on that people were using it just as a inebriant instead of treating it with reverence as the sacred gift that it is they hid what it truly was from the people. Thus keeping it secret and Sacred. 2 words that both come from the same thing which is sacrum. Sacrum, sacral, sexual, sacred, Secret, and secretion having to do with the Christos or Christ which is the sacred secretion or colostrum in your brain which forms mother's milk and semen, the Waters of life. I have a much larger talk I can give on that subject but that's for another time. But not unrelated. I should say here that there are different naming Concepts based on geographic location and genetic markers, as well as what I see as people just trying to get their names in print. The Amanita mushrooms we find here in the PNW may not, strictly speaking, be true Amanita Pantherina, microscopically identical to the European Pantherina, but for the purposes of this group, for the most part, and , specifically for this post, when I say Amanita Pantherina, I am referring to the group of mushrooms called Amanita Pantherina, Ameri-Panthera, Amanita Pantherinoides, Amanita Gematta and the Pantherina/Gematta crosses, seemingly unique to this region. Panther caps appear in early spring and if weather is permitting fruit through summer and fall and can go year round in this region, if conditions are favorable. They are not like Psilocybe shrooms in effect nor growing, being mycorhizal, meaning they only grow connected to the roots of certain trees. In this area the western hemlock is the main tree of choice. But also different pine and fir species as well as oak, beech and some others. Actually, more and more all the time, as they, like people, are a very adaptive species. They do not grow out in the forest. It seems that they are looking for us, just as we are them, because they grow, if in the forest, along the edges of paths, especially at corners and junctions. Along the margins between the forest and meadows. More often though, they are at the edges of driveways and sidewalks, especially at the corners where the two meet. They seem to have a proclivity for churches, cemeteries, official government buildings and schools, as well as hospitals. And are a really easy mushroom to hunt in neighborhoods from a moving vehicle. Even at night. The caps range from dark brown with the more potent Panthers to yellowish to very pale blond or cream soda colored caps especially with the Gematta. and although the very dark brown ones are usually very potent don't let the blonde Gematta fool you into thinking that they're weak. They are not. the cap has visible striations around the margin or edge of the cap where you can see the gills showing through. This is one of the markers of the panther, but some muscaria have this trait as well. The cap will have spots on it of course, otherwise known as Veil remnants. And no, you do not have to scrape the spots off. No part of the mushroom is a deadly poison. That is all mythology, for lack of a better word, since the word myth actually means sworn to be true, not that it's a fairytale. but all mythology as well as fairy tales and religious stories I have found and proven to all be one story. The same story, just told was a different cultural or Geographic point of view containing a deeper hidden meaning for those with the eyes to see and the ears to hear. Or in other words, it's all code. and it's about you and your brain and meditation not to mention the zodiac. Also, a story for another time. the spots, or Veil remnants can be white or cream-colored just like the stalk or Stipe and gills but leaning towards more white. at the point where the Stipe comes out of the Volva, it looks like a sock slid down on an ankle. The gills are white, as are the spores. Contrary to the semi popular, if false opinion, Amanita pantherina is not a deadly poison. they are in the same family as the death cap and destroying Angel group. but neither the Amanita pantherina nor the Amanita muscaria contain any of the deadly amatoxins that makes this species so frightening to so many people, Though uninformed they may be. Deadly Galerina, and some Lepiota and Conocybe mushrooms do have certain members of their groups that do contain the deadly amatoxin, yet you don't see anyone run screaming from the name lepiota. there are no documented cases of death reported from either Amanita muscaria nor Amanita pantherina ingestion. there is one case on record from a few hundred years ago I believe about some Lorde or some such figure who already being in poor health and having multiple diseases eating away at him as well as being obese, did consume a ridiculously gigantic amount of Amanita muscaria, being a gluttonous individual. and he did die with the Amanita being only incidentally a partial tip over the edge to his already one foot in the grave state. The only documented reports of death involving Amanita pantherina are from cases of elderly and feeble dementia patients who wandered away from nursing homes and died of exposure in the woods after incidentally consuming some Amanita pantherina. there are also multiple reports in various newspapers, Sensational as they may be, of this or that farmer or mushroom hunter who discovered a large patch of Amanita pantherina and thinking that they were Amanita rubescens, or Amanita Novinupta, the blusher, that looks much like the panther to the uninformed eye. in these cases, after consuming large quantities comparatively to the recommended dosage of the Amanita pantherina, and filled with Terror because of the unexpected effects of said Amanita, these individuals invariably head to the hospital emergency room thinking they're about to die, where doctors, who are usually misinformed about Amanita as well, mistakenly tell them things about being in a coma when the mushroom put them to sleep state that they are unable to be woken from until the required period of time passes while the Amanita teaches them things. usually from 4 to 15 hours. after which everyone wakes no worse for wear. sometimes feeling fantastic, other times with a slight hangover depending on the amount ingested. sometimes the individual may be awake and alert inside their seemingly dead to the world body for part of the time. To avoid this it is important to be careful of your dosage and to not redose within the first 3 hours of ingestion. now speaking of poisoning. I do recommend to everyone, but especially those who are ingesting any toxins, including and especially alcohol, that they take milk thistle or the active ingredient in milk thistle called silymarin, to protect the liver. In the case of people who accidentally ingest the death cap or Amanita Phalloides, if they have been taking milk thistle and/or if they can get silymarin soon enough, and are properly hydrated, there are people surviving death cap poisoning. silymarin protects and rebuilds the liver very quickly and the deadly amatoxin attacks and destroys the liver. so as I said, anyone ingesting any toxins, I would say even fluoride, would be well to Cozy up to some milk thistle. That being said, psychoactive Amanita is no more toxic than alcohol, to put it Ambiguously, since alcohol is technically one of the worst toxins. also for those who do end up in the emergency room usually due to taking Amanita in public, where things can happen to make a concerned citizen call an ambulance for you and get you an involuntary ride to said emergency room, the only thing that happens is they give you electrolytes let you sit in a dark room for a while and send you home. Being legal, no charges are necessary unless you're in Louisiana. Oddly, they may be illegal in Holland. Muscimol is scheduled in Australia but the mushrooms themselves may be legal and then it is also dependant on if it is intended for human consumption. They are listed on a theraputic substances list. So no wonder they would seek to keep it from the people. Other than that, Bulgaria, widely known for growing hemp and nightshade for atropine production also may be one of the few places where amanita Muscaria and pantherina may be illegal. Although they were legal not long ago. Also the UK and Israel are questionable, but as I say all too frequently, "We do not recognize their authority concerning sacred things like seeds, the earth we can grow them from, plants or plant substances, nor our sacred consciousness." This includes their destructive new moneygrubbing grip on cannabis that is destroying the atmosphere of healing as well as the honesty and quality of the plant materials purchased at now, ever rising prices for every dropping quality and dishonest reporting of potency. The government has no place sticking their noses or greedy hands into what is widely and since ancient times considered as sacred. On that topic, enough said.Amanita Muscaria and Pantherina contain Ibotenic Acid in the fresh mushrooms. Ibotenic Acid is a Gaba Precursor and Neuroprotectant. Upon drying, heating and consumption it is decarboxylated and transmutes into Muscimol, which is stronger and more psycho/spiritualy active and gentler on the body and system. Muscimol is also a GABA A agonist, that helps in the alleviation of a number of aliments including anxiety, depression, fear, pain, PTSD, migraines, epilepsy, Lyme's disease or pain from, insomnia, radiation burns (topically in a tincture) and possibly Mercury poisoning as I may have recently discovered accidentally. I had a florescent light tube explode all over above a bunch of things in a storage unit and when I removed things from it I would get particles from it imbedded in my skin, which would then get seriously infected in only a few hours, with much pain and they would not go away. Then I learned that amanita tincture healed radiation burns and applied some tincture of Muscaria that one if you wonderful people gifted to me a while back, and after over a month of pain at the slightest touch to those spots on my arms, they healed and we're completely gone in only a day or two of applying amanita tincture. I had heard that those tubes were radioactive inside, which is why I decided to try the amanita tincture. Recently one of you informed me, gratitude Kenneth Logsdon, that it may be more accurately Mercury, not radiation poisoning, or Mad Hatter syndrome, to which I said maybe I should add that to my credentials. Anyway, jokes aside, more research is needed. And any insight on that topic is appreciated. The recommended dosage of Amanita pantherina is from 1 to 4 grams for a psychoactive experiential dose. But although I have taken much more than that at once, prior to my own knowledge based on my own experiences in a vacuum of information concerning these mushrooms or their use, I personally would not recommend taking more than 2 grams at once of very dry mushrooms. and when I say 2 grams I am not necessarily saying to go ahead and take two grams for your first experience. although that may be just what you need. but for me as well as many others that I have introduced to Panthers 2 grams is a very experiential if not overly psycho-spiritual event. That being said, everyone including myself have been very grateful for that 2 gram or more experience. My first experience with pantherina was when I ingested 11 virgin buttons, albeit small and a year old, probably a good thing too, over a number of a few hours, one every half an hour or hour apart from the last. and although they were very gentle and wonderful for me, they gave me lessons in the full range of possible effects of a high dose pantherina experience. This first experience is where I based much of my explanations about the possible effects, along with subsequent personal experiences and the reports from many friends and other people who have taken pantherina and reported to me their experiences.Concerning the consumption of Amanita. Amanita take from 60 to 90 minutes to take effect upon ingestion. During the 60 to 90 minutes is when most often any nausea, that may be felt in some people but not everyone, occurs. So I recommend to everyone to keep on hand some crystallized ginger and some fresh mint. the combination of Ginger and mint together is the strongest stomach issue cure that I know of. Stronger even than Dramamine or motion sickness medicine which incidentally is made from the datura or henbane plants, and the scopolamine derived from them. Both are solanaceae plants having to do with flying ointment , which is a whole nother topic, but is an ally of the Amanita. from personal experience I can tell you that the moment you bite into a chunk of crystallized ginger wrapped in a couple of fresh mint leaves your stomach instantly backs off even from the worst pain. the next part involves the sleepiness that occurs in the first 60 to 90 minutes after ingestion of Amanita. because the nausea, if any, and sleepiness occurs during this first 60 to 90 minutes. As you wait for the effect of the mushrooms to take hold, I recommend to everyone to take the mushrooms and then take a nap for 60 to 90 minutes, not forgetting to set an alarm or get somebody to wake you up after this period of time has passed. from my experience this is a wonderful way to do it because you wake up with your entire body vibrating and feeling very good indeed. with any pain you may have been experiencing prior to ingestion a thing of the past. and you may feel pretty high or drunk as some people describe it although drunk is not the right word for it if you ask me. Neither is delirium. As for my own experience I see and think clearer with the mushrooms than prior to, especially involving the natural Realm and workings of nature. once the mushrooms have taken effect the first thing that you notice aside from being pain free, is that you no longer have any anxiety or fear of anything, no worries. any dilemma or problem that you may have had lays out before you with the easy and simple obvious solution right there easy for you to see and grasp. all your fears are gone. everything is easy, no problem. for me I feel a very strong vibration emanating from my heart and filling me with strength. this is the true reason why the Viking Berserkers consumed these mushrooms prior to going into battle. It was not for the purpose of going berserk but because they take away all your fear and anxiety and make you feel very strong so that one may go into battle without shiting yourself. going into battle this way with no fear and feeling strong will indeed allow you to be a rather berserk opponent enjoying what you're doing as it is so easy. even the fear of death is non-existent. as I found out on one of my experiences when I thought I was going to die but I had no fear of it. But maybe in my experience I have a special or unique view of that since I've already been dead and came back with memories of that other side being very pleasant indeed. but it seems from other people's accounts that suggest there is just no fear attached to you when Amanita are in your system.There also , with Amanita, from every experience I've ever had and from all reports from the people that I know if maybe not from everyone is the experience of great joy. a very calm grounded easygoing gentle but joyful feeling all around especially with nature. the only thing that I can say that one must watch for is to be mindful of your walking, of your feet, of where your body is. your body seems to be a little bit off from you maybe a foot or two to one side sometimes. So walking around corners may actually be walking into the corner or walking over uneven ground may have you stumbling if you are not mindful of your steps. On higher doses there is an effect that I called The Switch. The switch is when there seems to be like someone else has a switch attached to your Consciousness and they flick it off and on really fast. Your knees buckle and you go down and your instantly back up as if nothing ever happened. or you may drop what you have in your hands and say, oh I dropped that , and pick it up and then drop it again. the thing with the switch is that it often comes with what I call the time Loop. from my own experience, it went like this... I was walking across the room and I had in my hands a bag of Syrian Rue seeds. the switch hit and I dropped the bag of seeds on the carpet spilling them all over. so I got down to pick them up, or possibly my knees buckled. I can't remember for sure, and I went down to pick them up. as I was picking them up my girlfriend came in and asked me if I was ready to go mushroom hunting, as that was the plan. I said yes, as soon as I pick up these seeds. I picked up the seeds, stood up, and dropped the seeds again. I got down to pick them up and as I was picking them up she came in and asked me if I was ready to go mushroom hunting and I said yes as soon as I pick up these seeds. Then this scene replayed about 50 more times in a row taking up a period of about 4 hours. Paul stamets relates a similar experience in where he dropped his camera and picked it up and dropped it and that happened about 50 more times in a row. This is the point where if you are in a public place and concerned citizens see you falling down repeatedly, because it's no big deal to you, and getting back up and falling down again that you typically get an involuntary ride to the hospital. which is why I say don't do this in a public place. at least until you're used to the effects from more than one experience and have somebody there with you to keep things on track . needless to say driving a car would be the stupidest thing you could possibly do. as for my own experience, even though I can navigate perfectly well, if carefully, I know for a fact that I would drive directly into the first ditch or tree that I see if I tried to drive in this state. More with pantherina than with muscaria come to the switch and the possibility of skins knees, so be mindful of your surroundings. and it's good to have somebody straight with you to help just in case you need it. along with these things that I am related to you here come A huge list of all kinds of things that can happen. From going 50 feet tall, to Flying, to out of body experiences, to jumping in and out of other people's bodies, to living their whole lives in a moment , to living in the past present and future all at once , to talking to God , to becoming God , to judging yourself on whether you're a good God or not , to getting naked and rolling around or on the floor or running down the Street naked, cuz why would God need clothes,? to dying and being reborn, to seeing into other dimensions or past lives and or going through them and living through them. You May notice a certain biblical sort of feel to some of this which is odd but very common. and there are any number of other experiences and trance like or dreamlike states or Visionary experiences that can happen. one that is very unique is when you can know everything about somebody just by walking by them as if you've known them your entire life or live their whole life with them or were them. even if they are a block away from where your body is. a very good and beautiful and amazing experiential trip report is on this group's files called something like Rylee's Panther trip report or something like that. and it is one of the most beautiful reports I've ever read or heard and also is very typical of what most people are experiencing on a higher-dose pantherina experience. from beginning to end the entire experience usually takes about 15 hours, but you're not tripping that whole time. it takes a few hours to get going, the peak is around 3 to 6 hours in, and then it tapers off gently after that and you're always able to sleep very well pretty much at any time during it, waking up feeling refreshed almost every time. I always encourage everyone to post their Amanita trip reports on this group or better yet put them into the files so that they're easily accessible for anyone who would like to read them. for now that's all I've got. I may think of something later and when I do , cuz there's always more to come, I will add it to this, and this will be made into a pinned post. if anyone has anything to add, or any questions please feel free.I Love all if you. Love Light and Peace.
Larry Robinson
It's given me my life back! Complex PTSD, anxiety, depression, memory anti-inflammatory and more. I'm so thankful for ! I take a simple tincture that I have made. I started with an alcohol tincture last year and now I have olive oil for topical and alcohol in one batch and glycerin in another for internal use. I have used the olive oil tincture for internal use too. I also really enjoy a tea ounce in a while and plan on getting a special freezer tray to freeze for later use.
! I take a simple tincture that I have made. I started with an alcohol tincture last year and now I have olive oil for topical and alcohol in one batch and glycerin in another for internal use. I have used the olive oil tincture for internal use too. I also really enjoy a tea ounce in a while and plan on getting a special freezer tray to freeze for later use.Howie Doin
Larry Robinson do u take it as a tincture or make tea
Larry Robinson
Both. My protocol is three days on and one day off, or five days on and two days off for the tincture. Tea when I take the time.
I did the alcohol tincture for around 7 weeks daily and my blood work said my liver and kidney function were normal
Kasey Acker
Howie Doin thx….I have a family member who is experiencing all that you described including PTSD. I found these wonderful mushrooms in the summer. Started with .03grams as a tea for a week or so… this was before I learned about the Micro-dose protocol. But it seem to be helping so I continue. Went up to .05 for another week. At this point I haven’t learned about the Ph and was only boiling for 30 min. The mushrooms were powdered so the experience was consistent. How after 3 months and getting the Micro-dose protocol correct. He is taking it as the mushroom speaks to him. The big anxiety attacks have lessened both and frequency and severity. I haven’t seen much depression relief. And the PTSD… feels kind of like a big scab that slowly getting smaller. Prior to giving him the Amanita expensive so bad he couldn’t really communicate much. Would you say your experience is sort of similar?
Leslie Sinay
Aric Naber
I dry them and then combine with vodka, fill glass canning jar and cover with vodka, put in dark cabinet, shake everyday for 30-40 days.
This I only use topically or a few drops under the tongue.
Otherwise i make tea.I micro dose during day a week before doing a larger dose.
I use topical when I’m in pain.
I have fibromyalgia so anything that helps for pain is great.
I’ve had 2 out into the universe teaching experiences as well.
The larger dose of Amanita tea I took at nite in my bedroom.
Mercer Rosenfeld
I look forward to sleep again, sleep very hard, dream, anxiety relief, gives me something to keep me busy and look forward to:)
Leslie Sinay
Changed my life.
I’m happier now.
Sam Hughes
It relieves nerve pain for me, enhances sleep, and appears to improve my mood....to add to this, I dehydrated 6 or 7 caps then soaked them in 40%abv vodka in a dark place for 12 months (yes, I could have done it for a shorter time but I forgot all about it) - I mostly use this topically on my lower back (I have two herniated discs) but I do take a few drops orally every now and then. I have a little bottle with a pipette (I'd guess the pipette holds maybe 2 or 3ml) and some nights I have a pipette's worth... other nights I have none. I tend to wait until I feel like the mushrooms are calling me, rather than me choosing to take some of the tincture..
AMANITA PANTHERINA... A lot of you have been getting them from me as they are in season here and there have been a lot of questions because there really is just a serious lack of information out there about the Amanita pantherina. Other than nearly every source and guide proclaiming them as deadly poison. There are two reasons why this is so. One is because it is the origin of the Blessed Sacrament and Hindu Soma , among other names . When the spiritual leaders in the past caught on that people were using it just as a inebriant instead of treating it with reverence as the sacred gift that it is they hid what it truly was from the people. Thus keeping it secret and Sacred. 2 words that both come from the same thing which is sacrum. Sacrum, sacral, sexual, sacred, Secret, and secretion having to do with the Christos or Christ which is the sacred secretion or colostrum in your brain which forms mother's milk and semen, the Waters of life. I have a much larger talk I can give on that subject but that's for another time. But not unrelated.
I should say here that there are different naming Concepts based on geographic location and genetic markers, as well as what I see as people just trying to get their names in print. The Amanita mushrooms we find here in the PNW may not, strictly speaking, be true Amanita Pantherina, microscopically identical to the European Pantherina, but for the purposes of this group, for the most part, and , specifically for this post, when I say Amanita Pantherina, I am referring to the group of mushrooms called Amanita Pantherina, Ameri-Panthera, Amanita Pantherinoides, Amanita Gematta and the Pantherina/Gematta crosses, seemingly unique to this region.
Panther caps appear in early spring and if weather is permitting fruit through summer and fall and can go year round in this region, if conditions are favorable.
They are not like Psilocybe shrooms in effect nor growing, being mycorhizal, meaning they only grow connected to the roots of certain trees. In this area the western hemlock is the main tree of choice. But also different pine and fir species as well as oak, beech and some others. Actually, more and more all the time, as they, like people, are a very adaptive species.
They do not grow out in the forest. It seems that they are looking for us, just as we are them, because they grow, if in the forest, along the edges of paths, especially at corners and junctions. Along the margins between the forest and meadows. More often though, they are at the edges of driveways and sidewalks, especially at the corners where the two meet. They seem to have a proclivity for churches, cemeteries, official government buildings and schools, as well as hospitals. And are a really easy mushroom to hunt in neighborhoods from a moving vehicle. Even at night.
The caps range from dark brown with the more potent Panthers to yellowish to very pale blond or cream soda colored caps especially with the Gematta. and although the very dark brown ones are usually very potent don't let the blonde Gematta fool you into thinking that they're weak. They are not. the cap has visible striations around the margin or edge of the cap where you can see the gills showing through. This is one of the markers of the panther, but some muscaria have this trait as well. The cap will have spots on it of course, otherwise known as Veil remnants. And no, you do not have to scrape the spots off. No part of the mushroom is a deadly poison. That is all mythology, for lack of a better word, since the word myth actually means sworn to be true, not that it's a fairytale. but all mythology as well as fairy tales and religious stories I have found and proven to all be one story. The same story, just told was a different cultural or Geographic point of view containing a deeper hidden meaning for those with the eyes to see and the ears to hear. Or in other words, it's all code. and it's about you and your brain and meditation not to mention the zodiac. Also, a story for another time.
the spots, or Veil remnants can be white or cream-colored just like the stalk or Stipe and gills but leaning towards more white. at the point where the Stipe comes out of the Volva, it looks like a sock slid down on an ankle. The gills are white, as are the spores.
Contrary to the semi popular, if false opinion, Amanita pantherina is not a deadly poison. they are in the same family as the death cap and destroying Angel group. but neither the Amanita pantherina nor the Amanita muscaria contain any of the deadly amatoxins that makes this species so frightening to so many people, Though uninformed they may be. Deadly Galerina, and some Lepiota and Conocybe mushrooms do have certain members of their groups that do contain the deadly amatoxin, yet you don't see anyone run screaming from the name lepiota.
there are no documented cases of death reported from either Amanita muscaria nor Amanita pantherina ingestion. there is one case on record from a few hundred years ago I believe about some Lorde or some such figure who already being in poor health and having multiple diseases eating away at him as well as being obese, did consume a ridiculously gigantic amount of Amanita muscaria, being a gluttonous individual. and he did die with the Amanita being only incidentally a partial tip over the edge to his already one foot in the grave state. The only documented reports of death involving Amanita pantherina are from cases of elderly and feeble dementia patients who wandered away from nursing homes and died of exposure in the woods after incidentally consuming some Amanita pantherina. there are also multiple reports in various newspapers, Sensational as they may be, of this or that farmer or mushroom hunter who discovered a large patch of Amanita pantherina and thinking that they were Amanita rubescens, or Amanita Novinupta, the blusher, that looks much like the panther to the uninformed eye. in these cases, after consuming large quantities comparatively to the recommended dosage of the Amanita pantherina, and filled with Terror because of the unexpected effects of said Amanita, these individuals invariably head to the hospital emergency room thinking they're about to die, where doctors, who are usually misinformed about Amanita as well, mistakenly tell them things about being in a coma when the mushroom put them to sleep state that they are unable to be woken from until the required period of time passes while the Amanita teaches them things. usually from 4 to 15 hours. after which everyone wakes no worse for wear. sometimes feeling fantastic, other times with a slight hangover depending on the amount ingested. sometimes the individual may be awake and alert inside their seemingly dead to the world body for part of the time. To avoid this it is important to be careful of your dosage and to not redose within the first 3 hours of ingestion.
now speaking of poisoning. I do recommend to everyone, but especially those who are ingesting any toxins, including and especially alcohol, that they take milk thistle or the active ingredient in milk thistle called silymarin, to protect the liver. In the case of people who accidentally ingest the death cap or Amanita Phalloides, if they have been taking milk thistle and/or if they can get silymarin soon enough, and are properly hydrated, there are people surviving death cap poisoning. silymarin protects and rebuilds the liver very quickly and the deadly amatoxin attacks and destroys the liver. so as I said, anyone ingesting any toxins, I would say even fluoride, would be well to Cozy up to some milk thistle. That being said, psychoactive Amanita is no more toxic than alcohol, to put it Ambiguously, since alcohol is technically one of the worst toxins. also for those who do end up in the emergency room usually due to taking Amanita in public, where things can happen to make a concerned citizen call an ambulance for you and get you an involuntary ride to said emergency room, the only thing that happens is they give you electrolytes let you sit in a dark room for a while and send you home. Being legal, no charges are necessary unless you're in Louisiana. Oddly, they may be illegal in Holland. Muscimol is scheduled in Australia but the mushrooms themselves may be legal and then it is also dependant on if it is intended for human consumption. They are listed on a theraputic substances list. So no wonder they would seek to keep it from the people. Other than that, Bulgaria, widely known for growing hemp and nightshade for atropine production also may be one of the few places where amanita Muscaria and pantherina may be illegal. Although they were legal not long ago. Also the UK and Israel are questionable, but as I say all too frequently,
"We do not recognize their authority concerning sacred things like seeds, the earth we can grow them from, plants or plant substances, nor our sacred consciousness."
This includes their destructive new moneygrubbing grip on cannabis that is destroying the atmosphere of healing as well as the honesty and quality of the plant materials purchased at now, ever rising prices for every dropping quality and dishonest reporting of potency. The government has no place sticking their noses or greedy hands into what is widely and since ancient times considered as sacred. On that topic, enough said.
Amanita Muscaria and Pantherina contain Ibotenic Acid in the fresh mushrooms. Ibotenic Acid is a Gaba Precursor and Neuroprotectant. Upon drying, heating and consumption it is decarboxylated and transmutes into Muscimol, which is stronger and more psycho/spiritualy active and gentler on the body and system. Muscimol is also a GABA A agonist, that helps in the alleviation of a number of aliments including anxiety, depression, fear, pain, PTSD, migraines, epilepsy, Lyme's disease or pain from, insomnia, radiation burns (topically in a tincture) and possibly Mercury poisoning as I may have recently discovered accidentally.
I had a florescent light tube explode all over above a bunch of things in a storage unit and when I removed things from it I would get particles from it imbedded in my skin, which would then get seriously infected in only a few hours, with much pain and they would not go away. Then I learned that amanita tincture healed radiation burns and applied some tincture of Muscaria that one if you wonderful people gifted to me a while back, and after over a month of pain at the slightest touch to those spots on my arms, they healed and we're completely gone in only a day or two of applying amanita tincture. I had heard that those tubes were radioactive inside, which is why I decided to try the amanita tincture. Recently one of you informed me, gratitude Kenneth Logsdon, that it may be more accurately Mercury, not radiation poisoning, or Mad Hatter syndrome, to which I said maybe I should add that to my credentials. Anyway, jokes aside, more research is needed. And any insight on that topic is appreciated.
The recommended dosage of Amanita pantherina is from 1 to 4 grams for a psychoactive experiential dose. But although I have taken much more than that at once, prior to my own knowledge based on my own experiences in a vacuum of information concerning these mushrooms or their use, I personally would not recommend taking more than 2 grams at once of very dry mushrooms. and when I say 2 grams I am not necessarily saying to go ahead and take two grams for your first experience. although that may be just what you need. but for me as well as many others that I have introduced to Panthers 2 grams is a very experiential if not overly psycho-spiritual event. That being said, everyone including myself have been very grateful for that 2 gram or more experience. My first experience with pantherina was when I ingested 11 virgin buttons, albeit small and a year old, probably a good thing too, over a number of a few hours, one every half an hour or hour apart from the last. and although they were very gentle and wonderful for me, they gave me lessons in the full range of possible effects of a high dose pantherina experience.
This first experience is where I based much of my explanations about the possible effects, along with subsequent personal experiences and the reports from many friends and other people who have taken pantherina and reported to me their experiences.
Concerning the consumption of Amanita. Amanita take from 60 to 90 minutes to take effect upon ingestion. During the 60 to 90 minutes is when most often any nausea, that may be felt in some people but not everyone, occurs. So I recommend to everyone to keep on hand some crystallized ginger and some fresh mint. the combination of Ginger and mint together is the strongest stomach issue cure that I know of. Stronger even than Dramamine or motion sickness medicine which incidentally is made from the datura or henbane plants, and the scopolamine derived from them. Both are solanaceae plants having to do with flying ointment , which is a whole nother topic, but is an ally of the Amanita. from personal experience I can tell you that the moment you bite into a chunk of crystallized ginger wrapped in a couple of fresh mint leaves your stomach instantly backs off even from the worst pain.
the next part involves the sleepiness that occurs in the first 60 to 90 minutes after ingestion of Amanita. because the nausea, if any, and sleepiness occurs during this first 60 to 90 minutes. As you wait for the effect of the mushrooms to take hold, I recommend to everyone to take the mushrooms and then take a nap for 60 to 90 minutes, not forgetting to set an alarm or get somebody to wake you up after this period of time has passed. from my experience this is a wonderful way to do it because you wake up with your entire body vibrating and feeling very good indeed. with any pain you may have been experiencing prior to ingestion a thing of the past. and you may feel pretty high or drunk as some people describe it although drunk is not the right word for it if you ask me. Neither is delirium. As for my own experience I see and think clearer with the mushrooms than prior to, especially involving the natural Realm and workings of nature.
once the mushrooms have taken effect the first thing that you notice aside from being pain free, is that you no longer have any anxiety or fear of anything, no worries. any dilemma or problem that you may have had lays out before you with the easy and simple obvious solution right there easy for you to see and grasp. all your fears are gone. everything is easy, no problem. for me I feel a very strong vibration emanating from my heart and filling me with strength. this is the true reason why the Viking Berserkers consumed these mushrooms prior to going into battle. It was not for the purpose of going berserk but because they take away all your fear and anxiety and make you feel very strong so that one may go into battle without shiting yourself. going into battle this way with no fear and feeling strong will indeed allow you to be a rather berserk opponent enjoying what you're doing as it is so easy. even the fear of death is non-existent. as I found out on one of my experiences when I thought I was going to die but I had no fear of it. But maybe in my experience I have a special or unique view of that since I've already been dead and came back with memories of that other side being very pleasant indeed. but it seems from other people's accounts that suggest there is just no fear attached to you when Amanita are in your system.
There also , with Amanita, from every experience I've ever had and from all reports from the people that I know if maybe not from everyone is the experience of great joy. a very calm grounded easygoing gentle but joyful feeling all around especially with nature. the only thing that I can say that one must watch for is to be mindful of your walking, of your feet, of where your body is. your body seems to be a little bit off from you maybe a foot or two to one side sometimes. So walking around corners may actually be walking into the corner or walking over uneven ground may have you stumbling if you are not mindful of your steps. On higher doses there is an effect that I called The Switch. The switch is when there seems to be like someone else has a switch attached to your Consciousness and they flick it off and on really fast. Your knees buckle and you go down and your instantly back up as if nothing ever happened. or you may drop what you have in your hands and say, oh I dropped that , and pick it up and then drop it again. the thing with the switch is that it often comes with what I call the time Loop. from my own experience, it went like this... I was walking across the room and I had in my hands a bag of Syrian Rue seeds. the switch hit and I dropped the bag of seeds on the carpet spilling them all over. so I got down to pick them up, or possibly my knees buckled. I can't remember for sure, and I went down to pick them up. as I was picking them up my girlfriend came in and asked me if I was ready to go mushroom hunting, as that was the plan. I said yes, as soon as I pick up these seeds. I picked up the seeds, stood up, and dropped the seeds again. I got down to pick them up and as I was picking them up she came in and asked me if I was ready to go mushroom hunting and I said yes as soon as I pick up these seeds. Then this scene replayed about 50 more times in a row taking up a period of about 4 hours. Paul stamets relates a similar experience in where he dropped his camera and picked it up and dropped it and that happened about 50 more times in a row. This is the point where if you are in a public place and concerned citizens see you falling down repeatedly, because it's no big deal to you, and getting back up and falling down again that you typically get an involuntary ride to the hospital. which is why I say don't do this in a public place. at least until you're used to the effects from more than one experience and have somebody there with you to keep things on track . needless to say driving a car would be the stupidest thing you could possibly do. as for my own experience, even though I can navigate perfectly well, if carefully, I know for a fact that I would drive directly into the first ditch or tree that I see if I tried to drive in this state. More with pantherina than with muscaria come to the switch and the possibility of skins knees, so be mindful of your surroundings. and it's good to have somebody straight with you to help just in case you need it.
along with these things that I am related to you here come A huge list of all kinds of things that can happen. From going 50 feet tall, to Flying, to out of body experiences, to jumping in and out of other people's bodies, to living their whole lives in a moment , to living in the past present and future all at once , to talking to God , to becoming God , to judging yourself on whether you're a good God or not , to getting naked and rolling around or on the floor or running down the Street naked, cuz why would God need clothes,? to dying and being reborn, to seeing into other dimensions or past lives and or going through them and living through them. You May notice a certain biblical sort of feel to some of this which is odd but very common. and there are any number of other experiences and trance like or dreamlike states or Visionary experiences that can happen. one that is very unique is when you can know everything about somebody just by walking by them as if you've known them your entire life or live their whole life with them or were them. even if they are a block away from where your body is.
a very good and beautiful and amazing experiential trip report is on this group's files called something like Rylee's Panther trip report or something like that. and it is one of the most beautiful reports I've ever read or heard and also is very typical of what most people are experiencing on a higher-dose pantherina experience.
from beginning to end the entire experience usually takes about 15 hours, but you're not tripping that whole time. it takes a few hours to get going, the peak is around 3 to 6 hours in, and then it tapers off gently after that and you're always able to sleep very well pretty much at any time during it, waking up feeling refreshed almost every time. I always encourage everyone to post their Amanita trip reports on this group or better yet put them into the files so that they're easily accessible for anyone who would like to read them.
for now that's all I've got. I may think of something later and when I do , cuz there's always more to come, I will add it to this, and this will be made into a pinned post. if anyone has anything to add, or any questions please feel free.
I Love all if you. Love Light and Peace.
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